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Post by Lazarus88 on Dec 15, 2003 18:48:50 GMT -5
As there is plenty of controversy about the WoT books, I thought some of the members or visitors might want to share their theories or predictions. I got plenty of theories to start. You can get some ideas from theoryland.com or wotmania.com. Or discuss the problems of publishing that caused New Spring to be pushed back to January.
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Post by Majsju on Dec 15, 2003 19:51:56 GMT -5
You forgot the bestest, Dragonmount.com
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Post by Lazarus88 on Dec 17, 2003 22:20:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I originally had that, but I figured that everyone had already been to that site, and theoryland.com is good because it is mostly just comprised of theories
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Post by Lazarus88 on Dec 17, 2003 22:20:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I originally had that, but I figured that everyone had already been to that site, and theoryland.com is good because it is mostly just comprised of theories, hence the name theoryland.com
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Post by Lazarus88 on Dec 19, 2003 17:09:57 GMT -5
OK, it's time for my crappy first theory I really think that the Seanchan will not capture Rand. In the beginning of TDR, somebody says something about the Crystal Throne or the Nine Moons bending its knee to the Dragon Reborn! I dunno, but I think that although the Seanchan, especailly Tuon, might try to capture Rand, he'll show them the errors in their ways, and conquer them with the power. Aren't the battles of power absolutely, amazingly awesome! Unfortunately, Robert Jordan has been reducing the frequency of these highlights of the story!  |
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Post by Majsju on Dec 19, 2003 20:02:41 GMT -5
Thing is, rand is going to meet with Suroth, who we know
A: is a darkfriend.
B: has the male A'dam in her possession.
C: Most probably has Smeirhage by her side. Haven't seen what Semi did after Tuon got carried away by Mat, but it's not unlikely that she'll stay with Suroth. It sound more like a plan one of the forsaken might have come up with.
So, they will at least try. I have strong hope that this is the time when logain will take his first real step towards his awaiting glory, and be the hero of the day. But we'll see about that...
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Post by Lazarus88 on Dec 19, 2003 20:12:56 GMT -5
Yes, and I have also eagerly awaited the time when Logain will reveal his importance? What do you think about Elaida's foretelling about the Black Tower up in flames? I dunno, but I think Rand's gonna get piggyed off and run in there and teach Mazrim a lesson!  |
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Post by Majsju on Dec 19, 2003 21:34:07 GMT -5
Well, I think this is Logain's big moment. It's been set up for a huge showdown between him and taim, with Logain as the winner. But since Taim has a pretty big number of followers, this batle will destroy the Black Tower. The popular theory, which I support, is that Logain's surviving followers will join Egwene's Aes Sedai, and create the new Tower, unified. Elaida's "palace" will be the home of the male Aes Sedai, and Logain the Tamyrlin. Egwene will be the Amyrlin, with power over the female aes Sedai, and Logain as tamyrlin will be in charge of the entire Aes Sedai. Someone of the Ashaman with Rand will rise as the leader of the male Aes Sedai...
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Post by Lazarus88 on Dec 19, 2003 22:10:08 GMT -5
But then why would Logain get to become Tamyrlin just because he disposed of Mazrim? No, I believe that Logain must do something major, like killing one of the Forsaken, in order to rule all of the Aes Sedai. Perhaps, he is appointed by Rand to rule all of the Aes Sedai before Rand dies ( I do believe that Rand will die at the Last Battle) However, I do agree that one of the Asha'man will rule the male Aes Sedai, but what would be his title?
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Post by Majsju on Dec 19, 2003 22:30:44 GMT -5
getting rid of Taim is a pretty big thing, considering what he's up to. He's creating new dreadlords, and stoping that is something that will be important for the outcome of the last battle.
Rand will die, tes. We know that from Min's viewing of the seabchan girl 8don't remember her name), who will help him die. But the words RJ uses, HELP, hints that this is something that will occure before the last battle. Also, remember that it's been said several times about nynaeve, that she will not be satisfied until she's healed someone three days dead...
However, I think that Rand will survive the last battle, but he will "retire", and go living somewhere where people won't recognize him as The Dragon. Hopefulöly in the Two rivers, where everything started, together with Min. And every now and then go and visit Caemlyn, where Elayne and Aviendha lives.
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Post by Lazarus88 on Dec 19, 2003 22:54:13 GMT -5
Yes, I've read this theory many times. However, I don't know if Robert Jordan would be willing to end a story like that, but he does usually do the opposite of what his stories suggest, the scoundrel  . If he ends the book with Rand retiring, I will be annoyed, because I never did get a final, big ending. I will not disagree about Alivia helping with Rand's death before WOT, but I have an addition. Maybe, if Rand were to be caught by the Seanchan and put in the male a'dam with a female channeler like Tuon, Alivia would ease his agonizing death by balefiring him, just like Rand did in Shadar Logoth. Then Nynaeve could resurrect Rand in three days, and with all his wrath he would conquer the Seanchan! |
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Post by Majsju on Dec 19, 2003 23:28:05 GMT -5
Uhm...Not balifire, that's a big No-No. balefire burns a thread completely out of the pattern, leaving nothing to ressurect. I've been thinking about something similar though...During Egwene's test for accepted, we learn that it's possible to turn an aes Sedai to the dark, using 13 Black Ajah and 13 Myrdraal. Using plain, beautiful logic, 13 black ashaman and 13 myrdraal would be able to turn a malle channeler: Rand. And here conmes Alivia's help: she kills the "Evil Rand", removing the "turning". But it's just a theory.
Another theory is that Rand is so sick already, either from the taint or from his double wounds, that he has to be completely restored. But that seems a bit more difficult, since, How in the name of the light would anyone come up with the idea of healing someone by killing him!?
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Post by Lazarus88 on Dec 19, 2003 23:39:34 GMT -5
Whoopsies, all this talk of balefire in the other thread made me spit it out! Yeah, nobody could revive Rand then!  What I meant was ease his suffering with the power in some way, probably not a fireball though. Maybe she can just take out somebody's soul like Ishamael. That'd be really cool! ;D Also, I think that if you could heal somebody by killing them, humans would've figured it out by now. No, I like your idea, but I don't like Rand's sickness having to do anything with his resurrection. If he can continue to channel and he does not keep accumulating the taint, why would it affect him. i understand it would ease his suffering, but it is not necessary, and I don't think anybody would kill Rand for that! |
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Post by Majsju on Jan 5, 2004 19:40:21 GMT -5
But his sickness is a big deal atm. He gets dizzy everytime he grabs Saidin, and he can't turn up at the Last Battle like that. But then, I don't believe it myself that the sickness would be the reason, it just blurted out. If it's not impossible it's possible, however unlikely, right?
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Post by Lazarus88 on Jan 8, 2004 17:11:09 GMT -5
Hey, ya know what really piggyes me off? When Robert Jordan says RAFO! I mean, he must really relish making his fans wriggle waiting for the new books! That's why I cannot wait another 364 days or something until the supposed release of the 11th book! Bloody publishing!
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. If he ends the book with Rand retiring, I will be annoyed, because I never did get a final, big ending. I will not disagree about Alivia helping with Rand's death before WOT, but I have an addition. Maybe, if Rand were to be caught by the Seanchan and put in the male a'dam with a female channeler like Tuon, Alivia would ease his agonizing death by balefiring him, just like Rand did in Shadar Logoth. Then Nynaeve could resurrect Rand in three days, and with all his wrath he would conquer the Seanchan! 
What I meant was ease his suffering with the power in some way, probably not a fireball though. Maybe she can just take out somebody's soul like Ishamael. That'd be really cool! ;D Also, I think that if you could heal somebody by killing them, humans would've figured it out by now. No, I like your idea, but I don't like Rand's sickness having to do anything with his resurrection. If he can continue to channel and he does not keep accumulating the taint, why would it affect him. i understand it would ease his suffering, but it is not necessary, and I don't think anybody would kill Rand for that!